Inside The Minds of Truly Successful People, Chat With Yana Fry

Yasi: Today I have Yana with me. Yana is an award winning poetess, life coach, inspirational speaker, transformational teacher, and soul illuminator who inspires, empowers and educates globally. And she’s the founder of timeless teachings podcast and awaken human. And her clients and students come from 30 different countries all around the world with highly diverse backgrounds.

And she has been working with highly successful people for many years, and has unique insights into millionaires and billionaires mindset. And right now she’s out her journey. I would call it like a soul searching journey, traveling around, um, and teaching and traveling at the same time around the world and today I am very happy to have her on the podcast.

So welcome come to a Fast Track podcast. 

Yana Fry: Thank you so much. You guys, it’s a pleasure to be here. 

Yasi: And tell us a little bit about yourself, because I’m very curious about your personal story. You have this, uh, Yana TV in the past, you started and you with so many successful people. I’m sure you’re getting a lot of insights, but then right at the beginning, how did you decide to pursue this journey?

Yana Fry: Well to keep it short and sweet. I was born in Russia in St. Petersburg, and this is somebody I grew up. And then when I was 21, I laughed way is that one way ticket out and hundred years to listen to my pocket and physio match, no plans, no structional, France, no joke, no relatives and urea to land. And it was just this very.

Use type of a adventure to go into the vault and see what happens. And that was the beginning of a very big journey, which took me around the world. It brought me, you know, I used to live in Zurich. I used to live in New York. And for the last developer, yes, it has been. And so it happens that, of course, when you need people and you get to know different cultures, since you live in different places, you start questioning things, right?

So he’ll when you grew up in, especially if you come from a bigger country with a strong culture. I think anyone who comes from pretty much, I mean, really we all have strong culture. Right. But especially if it is large country itself, then, uh, um, I feel it condition says in a particular way. So when it was the traveling around the routes, you become much more open-minded and also you.

Challenging sit in through things you believed to be true, maybe because you grew up a certain way, you start questioning. Is it really true? Like the Byron kids who tells us about your work, right. We all know maybe the work by Byron Katie. And so that Johnny, um, just events totally led me to look at mystical schools, particularly in.

And I try to have big variety. I try, it’s kind of this small religious angle. And then I tried with non-religious angle and I tried personal development, which is focusing more on like a peak performance. So pretty much anything around the human evolution. Training your mind, because it’s all about the mind, largely how to be at its full potential.

I have gone very deep on this journey for many, many years. And of course, the thing for anyone who does this kind of work, it’s always comes with a personal story. And like when I was 27, it was probably the lowest part of my life, but there was at the very, very bottom emotionally, mentally, financially, physically, pretty much everything. 

And I was very very close to committing suicide at that time. Like one step away. And I remember when I was looking at this really, really dark place within myself, that I had to justify in my mind, why do I want to stay alive and continue being here? And at the time, the only thing I could possibly think about was to help other people find the light. 

And I think that’s how often happens for those of us who work with people. Most of the time we get into this shop because of our personal pain that we want to heal. And then when we started working with people, we healing our own pain and eventually we just get to that space, when it doesn’t have any more for ourselves.

And then they feel the way the true work begins because then you’ll operate in no longer from fear you’re bracing from loss. And to that just leads to larger impact. And it also leads to cleaner set of way of holding space for other people. And that which eventually then led me to doing all those things that you’ve mentioned Viviana TV.

And I have this teaching support costs and interviewing, and retreats and coaching and all of that, but they just also want to be very clear for people that it is important. We do not underestimate the potential of our own trauma, which then once we heal, can be transformed to our biggest gift. 

Yasi: Um, the last sentences is, it’s amazing though.

I love the last sentence. And even though you explained your personal story in such a short period of time, but I can feel that the richness of the experience that you have in life creates such a big impact. Uh, not on how you think, how you behave and your vision and your view towards living this life.

If you don’t mind, would you, um, tell us what happened when you were 27? Because I just want to let the audience know, you know, maybe many of them. Experienced similar things, but they’re not alone. It’s it’s life. You just have to look at it from different point of view. 

Yana Fry: Sure, 

absolutely.

Absolutely. Um, I got married relatively young, so I got my perspective. So I got married when I was 22 and, um, my husband got diagnosed with cancer three months after the marriage pretty much immediately. And then I became his primary cancer caregiver for. I think it was like five, five to seven years. And that was just a very, um, traumatic experience.

And also, I just want to say to them, my tenses, I was not who I am today in my thirties. Right. So. Didn’t speak to people who call coaches or therapists. I think until I was 27 or 28. So I’ve answered this entire journey of dealing quiz. This mouse who pretty much was dying from a critical illness being alone in a foreign country.

So we lived together in us and then we moved together to leave also in Singapore. But from my perspective, I didn’t have any support. So I had to support him. Without having any support myself. And of course, when you move around the volts so much you to also add, like when you’re in your twenties, right, you have also your own dreams.

You, you want to do something with your life. And I wanted to be an actress. I wanted to go to Hollywood and do all those things. And I kind of was. Track of exiting and more the link before I met him. And then because of those labs circumstances, I made the choice to not pursue my career, which I wanted to do into my passion, but instead to become, to fulfill the duty of the wife, which I felt I had to do, right.

Because we were together and this is what happened and, And then also on top of there, it’s just there, I would say cultural probably differences when you live in a different country. And especially if you move this out, um, sort of job assistance or established friends so-called or family members being there you’re there isolated.

And I just found that it was very difficult to. Keep giving energy to someone who really needs it day after day after day, and supporting the person without knowing how to replenish my own and the teacher. And when you do this consistently for many years, I just ended up experiencing mad. But now it’s like massive.

And because there was too young canteens sink too ignorant and maybe too afraid and maybe too proud, you know, to ask for help, uh, out also this stigma around the mental health sort of challenges, right? So I felt, well, I am strong. I can deal with this. I’m not one of those sick people who go and talk to setup is I thought, right.

So I didn’t want to be challenged to any event. And it just played really badly against me eventually. And as funded, my friends used to save it’s those kinds of things. It’s important. You treated earlier. It’s a bit like with the temperature, right? If you have temperature, let’s say four to 7.5 in cell service.

It’s one thing, if you have temperature, which is so tonight you have to be hospitalized. So it’s the same, pretty much, which I feel when it comes to our mental wellbeing, that when mine just sets wondering off a little bit, it’s much easier to help this person rather than when you be. And do you about to commit suicide, then it is much harder to bring you back.

And so that happens then when I was spent a seven, my husband died and again, it was just such a, such a shock for me at the time. And it just took me many, many years to process it. And because of the way COVID was connected with his death, I print this much ended up being on the street with no money, no job, no.

Understanding how to get employed because I was a caregiver all the time. So I didn’t acquire enough professional skills for my CV to be hired by someone. And so I kind of were just in that space in life where I was very lost and didn’t know what to do. And so. That’s kind of puts a much worse, the story, which then eventually brought me ironically right into the rock I’m doing right now, because I wanted to heal myself first and then eventually it became a professional helping other people.

Yasi: thank you so much for sharing your story. Uh, even from your personal story, I can relate to that. So I’m, I’m sure the audience out there, you know, if you think. You are experiencing difficult times, you know, in your life. You’re not alone. We all have this kind of similar things happening in our life and which, um, I feel very inspired w what you did afterwards, that you really, uh, kind of have this wakening moment and then pursue a journey.

And that leads to what you are now. And then you look happy. You look, you know, you look, you are, are glowing. And so I want to talk a bit about. On the present Yana. And after that, you, you went through this, um, you talk about the study, understand human psychology and how to heal yourself. Um, and then that leads to your passion in helping others.

So in your. Uh, coaching like you as a life coach. Can you tell us a little bit about how a normal person, if they experienced something traumatic in their life? What’s the journey. You know, they are going through with you or not with you, just with anyone that they might need help from.

Yana Fry: I also want to clarify something very, very important here, which I feel like I do not really do trauma healing. Okay. So this is just very important to understand that are people who are trained for that. Yeah. And there are trauma specialists and if someone is experiencing. Something Greta traumatic at the moment.

Like in my case, it was death of my husband’s. Right? So I actually went to a book to this, this therapist. I’m not a therapist by training. So I’m doing more life and soul guidance, which means in my understanding that at different levels, how we can evolve as humans. And usually trauma is sort of the, the foundation of the problems we have in life.

And if people who are listening to us right now feel that they haven’t dealt with their traumas yet, then. Strongly encouraged to go into requisite, professional and heal it and clean it up. Because if you have unhealed trauma, it’s a bit like, um, it’s a bit like a room that you just closed in your house, but it doesn’t mean you don’t have.

Right. And it drains you a lot and it takes a lot of energy to keep that door closed, then this particular room. So it might be very scary. And usually it is very confronting to look at that, but it is also very important because once we heal that, then we open up this energy to be in all aspects of our lives, which is really important.

So that’s kind of the first step then for people who have done enough, All of that kind of work. When they have looked at their past, when they looked at themselves, they face their shadows. They probably did enough work with relationship with their parents and perhaps their upbringing, you know? So there’s quite a bit of foundation there already.

Then these people usually come to me eventually. And then we start talking about the sole purpose. So when I do it says when you are good in life, Right. So you either, okay. Or really good. So you don’t have massive problems like that. They’re really draining your energy a lot. You either somewhere in the middle or probably like a higher middle, little bit.

And you start just asking yourself those questions. Okay. So why did, is that. I really want to do not because I want to make money on the biggest I have to make money, but something that I want to do, because it is my passion, because it is my life calling because they want to make a contribution because I want to leave a legacy.

Right. So it’s just an entirely different. Types and group of people and we can all be there if we want to, we don’t have to, but if we want to, we can all be in that group. And those, uh, the people that they usually work quiz. So they come to us with a very different mindset. They have different life circumstances and, uh, they want different things in life.

Yasi: And the way you talk about those people who are millionaires and billionaires, do they have like, um, different mindsets that you have observed? 

Yana Fry: Yes, just to gain here, to clarify people who I, who I personally interview right now for the timeless teach export, because most of them I teachers and influences and role models.

So I don’t know, move them millionaires or billionaires. Right. So they’re more in the teaching space. They are those who are helping others and those people who are my students and clients that I do a lot of, especially one-on-one. Then those often tend to be yes, but to be called, uh, traditionally 1% of the 1% in a very sort of social way.

Right. So, and I’m not saying again that they are better than others and to me, it is just different type of people, but they have. And I’ll put two units there to impact more people because of where they are in life. And that is the reason also why I broke up with them, because then when I vote with the person like that, I know that this person that will impact many more because they just work with a lot of people usually.

Right. And they do have a different mindset. Do you want me to tell you what it is? 

Yasi: Yes. Yes. That’s uh, that’s, that’s the whole point of this? What is the, what is the difference that you have observed? 

Yana Fry: Yes, this is a great, great question. So then if you character traits and the way how they look at life. So first of all, these people are usually very demanding.

So they want kind of every sinky yesterday, the perfectionist, and they would be very demanding first of all, towards themselves. So it means they have very high standards for themselves and to Syriza Alice, they would have a very high standard for people around them, for the Roca that people do, they would demand you to be the top of your game.

So this. Pressure there. Right. But she gave not for everyone. And they’re not also saying that this is a better way to live life. I’m just kind of describing what I noticed from my work with service people. So they’re very demanding. They also very hardworking. And for me, it was very interesting because sometimes they work, let’s see with, um, people who may be in their thirties or forties and they inherited.

Money from the family, right? So there may be like this next generation that now has to figure out how to spend money into what to do with that. And to me, it was always very interesting to watch them, how much they actually work. And, um, when I was asking them, Why because they don’t have too many people think that you work only when you have to.

So what do you do with your life? If you don’t have to work, some people might go in a self destructive behavior, right? We’re going to be just kind of set, spending money randomly and to go, going to kind of also just thinks that prohibition has been doing, um, People that I work with and many people that like, see ya.

Uh, it’s very interesting how much they’re focused on the vision of a better society and also how much for themselves. They feel that almost they have to earn the right to have all this. It’s so it’s not so psychologic plan, it’s very hard for a human being kind of just accept that you were born, like with the syllabus for one, or you were born, like in that particular situation.

So they’re trying to, to make, to make themselves Worsey of receiving that. Let’s say from their parents though, they’ve worked really, really hard. And so that’s kind of was the trade for pretty much. And even that I saw, um, which for me, it was interesting to notice then, um, the next one that, uh, these people, uh, usually choose their friends.

Very careful. And that’s why there are all those conversations that is so hard to get into this network. And it is a very closed cell call and there are all kinds of people, all Sino who teach you how to get to know people who have that. Right. The reason for this, but I also realized after years, I mean, you could say this an element of financial, maybe elitism or arrogance, to be very honest, right?

I mean, sometimes it comes to this, that it depends on the person and the character, but I think they’re valid. Say it’s actually all about tracking. So the reason why they are so picky about France and why it usually takes some time to develop a level of trust with that kind of person as, because everyone is after them.

If you just think about it every day, someone comes to them and asks for money for introductions, for support for endorsement. Right? So they’re constantly. Approached by people who want something from them. And of course, I mean, if it happens day after day after day, they just get very nervous and they get very guarded.

And when someone shows up, they don’t know, then the first question would be, what do you want from me? Right. And unfortunately, and that also ironically, again, one of the reasons why they come to work with people like myself because of this low level of trust, when at some point. It might be perceived by others that you’re on the top of the world, but the reality of your life, you don’t trust anyone in the world, which is a very difficult place to be.

And so, uh, that’s why they kind of very Peaky about 

Yasi: France. Actually. There’s also another reason for that. I want to add, because I was listening to this podcast interviewing, um, a very successful entrepreneur and he said, you know, people always talk about. Uh, once you become reach, you forget about your friends because you are now snobbish.

Actually, that’s not the truth is because people put in the hard work and they have accumulated so much experiencing life and they changed their mindset. It just naturally they outgrown the old self and if their friends still stay the same, it’s hard for them to reconnect with the friends. Again, it’s not because they become snobbish.

It’s just because they are developing themselves all the time. And then they. From the village or school, they are staying where they are. It’s about mindset. It’s a natural progression. It’s not about being snow. 

Yana Fry: Exactly, exactly. But also just to be honest, kind of untransparent about it.

Sometimes it is about being snobbish, right. And there are elements. Sometimes there could be elements of being arrogant or elitism kind of sinking, which is very human. I’m not criticizing by any means. Right. It’s very human that sometimes. Achieving more in life. It is very easy for the ego to kind of get carried away.

And I think the reality, it happens to every single person. It is just people who are more self-aware they know how to, they notice it when that’s what’s happening and they know how to bring themselves back into the. And to kind of tell them, okay, let’s, let’s learn some humility here. Right. Let’s stay grounded.

And I think that if people tell you that there have never had snobbish thoughts, I think they’re allotted. It doesn’t know it’s true. They did. So it is again, it just how we hold ourselves. Right. And, but at the same time, then you’re also absolutely right. It is very true that when we are on the way on this journey, Um, this is actually one of the pain.

That people have to go through if they are on a journey of becoming a very wealthy financial lives. Right. So it’s exactly that, that you will have to let go of many relationships often with friends often with relatives. Which is really painful. And, um, and it’s the, for everyone, like I know some people who would like to stay with friends, with people, maybe they, you, from the very beginning of their life and they don’t want to change the so-called.

And I’m not saying that you cannot become, you know, a millennial or something. If you stay connected to Vizio is your primary school friends. I mean, of course you can, but the reality of it is that. Your friend should be able to challenge and your mind is different, your lifestyle of different, and the reality of life France can get jealous and France could actually sort of, um, question.

how you make choices. And sometimes it’s exactly what you said that a minor changes so much that you simply don’t see any sink and Coleman anymore with people that used to be friends. Right. And then you just let go. And sometimes also cabins is you look at goal and then maybe sometime later, a few years later, five, 10 years later, you reconnect with those people too.

So that’s why, uh, When, when people come to me and ask for advice sometimes especially about relationships, which they feel do not allow them to move forward in life. I always say, you know what? You can just. Pause it for the moment don’t burn the bridges, right? It’s not like you say, okay, I never going to talk to this person again.

It doesn’t have to. It is just for now. If you feel that they, someone in your life who is holding you back and draining your energy, it doesn’t believe when your success maybe tells you. It’s not going to work with somehow tries to criticize you. And you could you say, as you’re in a way, which is not constructive.

’cause sometimes criticism could be very good for you. Right. But she, I mean, not constructive criticism and holds you back. You’re right. Then you just say, okay, it is not helpful. So you step aside and you give it some time and you pursue your dream and then maybe later you will reconnect with this person.

You never know. 

Yasi: Yes. Yes. Oh, it’s so right. And uh, sometimes, um, when people, you know, progress in life or accumulate wealth because of, you know, the mindset change, hard work and. They’ve created value for more people. Naturally they accumulate more wealth. Right? And then it can be also judged by their friends.

If their friends don’t understand their personal choices, I give you a very typical example, like money course. We talk about money mindset, most of the time, the reach people. Th th they drive secondhand car. The cars are cheaper than people who are not, they are regional, the people who even drug more expensive cars and then can be judged like, oh, you have so much money.

Why you don’t buy a nicer car. You’re so stingy, people don’t understand why, because cars are depreciating assets. That’s why people bother to invest money rather than putting things in a car. Um, yeah, that, that’s kind of things like, I feel where you talk about. It’s like when you progress, you have to pause the relationship with some people.

If they don’t understand and reconnect with them, maybe a few years later. 

Yana Fry: Exactly. And also your was a very important point. Sometimes I would say not all of them, because it’s also depends on the personality, but a lot of times that, uh, this people could be viewed by others to stingy. It’s exactly what you said.

Right. Then Addis would say, wow, you have so much money and he didn’t want to spend it. But this is the interesting quantum maybe. There’s so much money because the person is very particular about how she or he spending and the reason why they’re doing it is not because they. Uh, no generous actually often they have very generous people and to when they give, they give a lot and from the heart, but they choose very carefully where they give and they want to make sure that you, you fit exactly into what they want to invest into.

Right. And also it’s, it’s about respecting money. So it’s, you know, when, when we respect. We have this balance, right? So the balance, so for the getting country, when money comes to you and when money goes out and often, uh, I think that, um, but there was those psychological experiment. That’s been proven many, many times.

And when your countries that they say, let’s say, if you take a homeless person on the street and you give this person 1 million. For example, then then sick leave is in a year, every single day will be gone. And the person that would be back on the streets with no source of income, it’s exactly a tread because it’s not about how much money you have, it’s your ability to respect money and to know what to do with this.

And so to making money, just one part of the game to, to sustain it and to expand it is an entirely different. 

Yasi: Yeah, money, mindset and money, habit. Same was the lottery winners. We see the same. And coming back to your, your, your teachings, how do you take them through this journey?

Because this is not a common topic among wherever it is. I want to explore a little bit more on what is life coaching and who would need it. And then what kind of results they can expect to receive after. 

Yana Fry: So it’s a great, great question.

And, um, thanks to COVID-19 pandemic. Now life coaching can add a sink around mental health became leveled up, and everyone wants to talk about it these days, which is really interesting for me because before it’s exactly what you said, that it was not mainstream. And people were like, wow. This is like, after we do these, these, these, and that, right?

When all those kinds of demands are covered, then we can talk about mental wellbeing and my life purpose and, and inner peace. And, uh, because of the COVID pandemic and extreme socialization and every single thing has been happening. People just develop so much more anxieties and that made them question mainly things and especially also professional things in life it’s.

So either they end the right job, whether they’re, you know, in the right line of business in general. And so I just, not as that, there were manual people who reached out to. Seems to enter defense, which was really interesting, you know, to see. And just to, um, see your question a bit more specifically, what kind of people who, who come for this kind of work again?

I think it depends who is the guide and to what kind of work this person is offering. So, because in my case, I offer more sole purpose. So it does have people for me, they would be either those who already relatively successful or often they are themselves about to become teachers or facilitators, or they kind of want to work with people.

And while holding space for others, it could be coaches, some Sheila’s themselves. They also want to work on themselves. Right. So I do kind of also that kind of mentorship. For other teachers, coaches, healers. And, um, for those who are not in this line of work, it’s just simply people who want to have this union of mind, body and their soul.

So it means that when they do something professionally, they want to do this because it’s really connected with whatever they want to do in their heart. Not because. There received maybe education and they spent, they were younger. Not because their parents want them to do not because this is the easiest way to make money.

Right. They want to do something because they really believe in it. And usually, but I noticed that first they have to figure out what it is that they believe in it. That’s why I say that the work that they do is about two very important things. So one, you have to realize. But as your sole purpose and to what you need still embody it.

And so they’re realizing part, it is more about them at the physical. It’s so more about the spiritual or personal development, or maybe more mental, right. If we could use those words, because then you have to look within yourself and ask yourself, often read a tough questions. And to like, for example, one of the questions which I really a love a lot. And I’m just going to say it out here for people to reflect those who are listening to us, try to ask yourself what nourishes my soul and just reflect on this in your honest self and see what comes up. And you will be surprised often with the answers because things that nourish our soul and to nourish our ego ,usually completely different things. And most of the time, when we go into professional world, we instinct nothing sinks civilly by conditioning. We choose. Activities here that nourishes our eager. It is very normal for all of us as people, right? Because we want to become something because someone, because we want to prove something to ourselves or others, or we want to heal our pain or trauma, or we will be running towards pleasure.

Right. So they always say it’s either running away from pain or running toward with pleasure. And so it’s all from bigwig structure, which is part of being human. It is beautiful. The only problem with this, it does not sustain. And that’s why there is this myth. And I think it is a mess when people say that those who are very wealthy and famous, you know, when successful, they’re very unhappy people to me.

And the reason the, there is this mess because most of people would go from what age they Eagle ones and start building their life around it. And you couldn’t become very wealthy and very successful and very famous following what your ego wants and gain. Then the only problem is going to hit you later.

When you’re the top of the mountain, you will not feel this deep inner fulfillment because he never talked to you. Right. And that’s often, this is Beckley share kind of opinion comes from that. Those are the people who usually go and talk to life coaches, which there’s an element of truth in that there are many people like this.

Yes. But then I’m also noticing that they are older generation. They probably would be like your, and my parents’ generation. Right. So that’s maybe for them. It’s the truth, but they feel the younger generation it’s now entirely different because we already now for asking ourself this question, we don’t want just to make money.

We also want to do some that, which we really love doing. And I think it’s probably a big part of also the growth that. Yeah, see right. When you help people to figure it out with, you know, with the money mindset and everything that you do, that it has to kind of ignite their heart. Otherwise they don’t want to be able to find the energy to do everything that they need to do.

And to, so when people come, then one category is those who followed. And they made all the money and they are not happier. And then they come to me and we have to clean it up and to figure it out to what to do now. Right. This is a big work around that. And the other group of people who are smarter and before they say, oh, I want to become that millionaire or billionaire.

They ask this question, what nourishes my soul. And to be spend time reflects in connect. And so you become really clear what it is and it takes time to get there. But the beauty of it, once you’re very clear, then it becomes very easy to do. And then when you start pursuing this path, You will not experience a burnout because everything you do is giving you energy, right?

So it definitely Metta. If you’ve worked, I don’t know what 10, 12 hours a day, if it is something that gives you a tremendous energy and you love doing it regardless, then you, you keep replenishing yourself all the time. And just in the long run, you kind of become, you have a jacket. Because then you’ll have the money.

You have the impact and you have a very fulfilled version of yourself. 

Yasi: Have you heard about this concept called ikigai? 

Yana Fry: Tell them, you know, so 

Yasi: eeky guy, it’s a concept from Japan. So they did a study. Why in that village or the old people, you know, they live more than 100 years old. So the life of longevity is pretty low, longest in the world, I think.

Um, and then they understand why, because the people there in their country. When you ask what they to do in our general normal society, people say, oh, I’m a teacher, I’m a coach. I’m a professor. They quote themselves by profession. But in that village, they call themselves by what kind of value they bring to the society.

So there are three, uh, like a vein diagram, three things is you, you do what you good at and you do what creates impact on other people in the society. And what you do brings you. Uh, you are rewarded. So when you find this overlap of the three elements, then that you’ll find your ikigai, which is what you talk about, the, your purpose.

Like you feel you’re passionate about doing that. And then money comes as a result naturally. 

Yana Fry: Yes, that’s exactly add. Absolutely. 

Yasi: And, uh, one thing I also want to talk about it early on, you mentioned, uh, about this, uh, the myth that people think rich people are all happy. Uh, you, you explained it very well.

I think yes, when they are doing the work, you know, that doesn’t nourish their soul. When they’re at top of the mountain, they will be burnout. But if they are doing. Uh, because they enjoy do it. Like what we talk about today, people ask themselves or if money is not a problem, what would I do? Yeah. If you do that thing that’s right.

Exactly. But then I want to say on the other hand to address this myth is there will be way more people feeling miserable when they do not have the money. So that’s just, yes. Yeah. 

Yana Fry: Yes, absolutely. And you know, also, uh, we kind of casually spoke about it, right? When they said that often there is another may surround, um, like life coaching or personal development or the kind of spiritual journeys that for some reason, people think that spirituality and money don’t go well together.

And so it’s a very common myth actually that somehow. Um, you know, if you disputed she’ll work, it also often has to be for free or people who go on this journey. They feel they have to give away all their money and they have to massively change their lifestyle. Or they cannot possibly run a very successful business and be on spiritual journey at the same time.

Right. I’m like, well, it’s all questionable. And. Is it because yes. The thing money. Exactly. Exactly. So for some reason analysis sites and money has been demonized, this is exactly ads, right? So that, this becomes even to saying, like I told you, you know, Russia is the country where I was born and it’s funny right now I’m Shia just because I’m of my sabbatical and, and soul searching gear.

Right. So I’m traveling around the world, as you said. And so in a way I grew up in this culture, there is a saying that people don’t like those people who are healthy, wealthy and have. Right. So because that’s and this is the reality of life and at the same time, but I on stage money. As in an incredibly powerful tool, it is a very important instrument that can give you not even about comfort.

I’m talking more about freedom. It gives you freedom to live the life that you’ve wanted to leave in the way, how you want to live it, which is priceless to me. Right. And at the same time, Because of the social conditioning and they say, I have seen across pretty much all cultures all over the world, regardless of where we have been born in the world, we all Vance to this social conditioning, that money is evil one way or another, or you have to work very hard to make a lot of money, right.

Or you have to sacrifice something. Like relationships or health, you know, to make money. Exactly, exactly, exactly what you’ll have to sacrifice your morality and to make like really not humane decisions. Right. Or you’ll have to kind of, I don’t know, just walk over people, right. To get there. And again, the, the, the truth.

But I have seen that there are people who became billionaires who have done. You know, they have been really bad people and from the sort of human point of view, and they made a lot of money in a, maybe not even very legal way, let’s say right. I mean, the truth is there are many people like this, but then even for them, they do carry this pain is in themselves.

And every human being wants to them. So, and then of course they want to set up charities and do philanthropical work. And then they also common to go up with people like myself, because some of my clients, you know, I know their life stories. And as what they’re all with say that every Saint has a past and every senior has.

And I think it’s important to give second chances to all of us, regardless of where they’re coming from and being under judgmental about that, because we all go, you know, it was through our Johnny, but I’m just saying for those who are kind of on their way there. It will be much cleaner for you if you started kind of from the right approach, right.

Then the right approach here is listening to your soul and not rushing into it and taking some time. It is in the long run. You will save yourself a lot of pain so that when you’re in your fifties or sixties or seventies of you all, not the big tournaments set in your mind, and then you had to buy everything you had to do to make money.

So make it right from the very beginning. And then you create this foundation for yourself when you can just enjoy your life on a much deeper level later. So it’s all about kind of, long-term thinking also here 

Yasi: and for anyone who has. Going through this journey. So searching. Where can they start? Let’s say the question you talk about in this podcast, you know, what nourish or so, and what else can they do?

Baby steps, 

Yana Fry: baby steps. Yes. Baby steps. Very good. So baby steps, people who want to go on a spiritual journey or what kind of Johnny they asking here or soldier? 

Yasi: Yeah. Like for example, I, what I can imagine is really typical. Nowadays, people are experiencing burnout. They don’t feel fulfilled doing what they’re doing at work.

But they don’t know what to do, you know? Okay. Yeah. 

Yana Fry: Yeah. So I understand. So the most important thing, and it’s not going to be a popular device, but to slow down. That’s the most important one because they burn hours happening when too many things are happening. And our mind cognitively is not able to process it and to put them in the system and now kind of right.

Mentally and then surviving those burnouts it just too much to do it funds. So the first sink to do is slow down. So two means you’ll have to step away from what you do and remove. Unnecessarily activism, which means that unnecessary tasks you probably do, and necessarily connections with people just for the moment.

Right. And necessarily time on social media and necessarily time let’s say watching can use so TV or anywhere else where you get information and necessarily time principle. To any type of information that comes your way, right. Just remove all of this and to keep only the essential and give yourself just some time to stabilize your mind and your nervous system.

So you don’t feel like you’re constantly bombarded with things. So slowing down is very. And I would not underestimate such a simple things as eating well and under eating Cavell. I mean, you need to know what food is good for your body, because it’s all connected, right? Mind and body are all connected.

So if you don’t eat properly, your mind gets more stressed out. So you need to know what food is good for you, and you need to know what eating schedule is good for you and save. It’s also very important to exercise physically again, proven or scientifically physical exercise, creative, and the hormones in our brain that, you know, change our hormonal system in general.

And, and we just feel more energetic and happy and calmer. So it’s important to have regular exercise that you feel also is good for you. It’s important to sleep. So usually when people are goals, ribbon out, you, if you’re not sleeping, let’s say up to nine hours, try to increase your sleep, put it over your water.

Yeah. You probably want to sleep between eight to nine hours. If you’re experiencing burnout. It gives your mind time to rest. Right? So advice you’re constantly engaging in something. 

Yasi: I feel very relieved that I sleep tonight 

Yana Fry: while I’m sleeping so much. No, no, no. Don’t don’t and actually, even now one of my favorite spiritual teachers used to say that sleeping.

It’s a very important part of the spiritual practice. Seriously, people underestimate how important sleep is because you are resetting everything. Like maybe you notice you sell before. If let’s say people who let’s say you go through a tougher. Right than to your emotion that mentally may be unbalanced, then you’re struggling about something.

I mean, one way you can just sit there and trying to figure it out in your head. Usually it makes things worse. And how one of my teachers used to say, you can just say, if you’re confused, lost, stressed, just go to. Take an afternoon nap for an hour seriously. And do, you will see when you wake up, your mind will be rebooted.

And actually I tried it also myself and I can see the difference. It’s very interesting. It’s almost like you reset your entire system. And I think it’s also one of the reasons they, I know, for example, um, psychologists, they do give us a device when people experience burnout. That if you start in the morning, sometimes when your burnout is really intense and have been there for a long time, it depends on what’s Chronicle.

And then what happens is when you wake up in the morning, you wake up stressed, like you wake up from the rest, said, , you have to start your day. Right? And so one of the advice is if you wake up, but you feel you’re not ready, somewhat something often your mind go back to sleep. Sleep for another hour and start your day again and see if there’s a difference.

Right. So sleeping is very important. 

Yasi: Uh, I w I might as well just take that advice next time. I tend to start my day very late. And sometimes I also feel tired next time. Next time I might just go back to sleep. 

Yana Fry: Exactly. You’re short. And because then also if we remember very famous there, four hours work, work, work week, right?

The very famous book then it’s again, it’s um, it’s not about there. How many hours you put to work. It’s actually how present and focused you. In doing what you need to do. And this is another cool exhibition. I also noticed with people who are millionaires and billionaires, they are highly efficient about their time.

And when I say that they work a lot, it doesn’t mean that let’s say they stay out of the computer for 12 hours, right. Or maybe at another day in the office all the time. So it means that let’s say when they show up in the office, it could maybe be only three hours. But in these three hours there, so hundred percent present that they able to do everything that they need to do.

And then they know how to switch over their mind and they go into do something else because, but they also know that they needed to create the space and they are mindful. And that’s why I say it’s important, for example, the goal for the gym or jogging or walking, because also the need for physical exercise, you create a space in your mind, or it’s like similar than people say that you have those ideas when you’re in the shower singing.

Right. I mean, why? Because you create space in your mind and it is very important to, to do all those things. And maybe just one more in case of those were experiencing some kind of stress of an right. And especially now that it’s very important to, to ask for help and to have a network that supports you.

And it could be as simple as calling a friend and just being very honest and saying, you know, It has been a tough day. I need to talk to someone and not being ashamed to do it right or fearful to do this. It’s very normal to be human. It’s very normal to be vulnerable. And to find when we ask for help and support, we just nourish ourselves so much more.

Yasi: You know, like you mentioned earlier that when someone experienced. Um, difficult times in life. It’s just better to ask for help early than late. 

Yana Fry: Exactly. 

Yasi: Exactly. Um, I’d like to continue this conversation, but we’re running a little bit out of time and, uh, after the, you know, our last part of the conversation, I think, okay, I’m ready to go out for a run.

So thank you so much for being here. 

Yana Fry: Thank you for having me here Yasi.